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to review the GENERAL AUCTION GUIDE
General Information
- Introduction
- Do I need a fast computer?
- I have questions about a specific item?
Registration
How can I participate live online? Where
do I register?
Bidding Live Online
- How do I bid?
- Absentee and Live bidding - some comments
- Potential Areas of Confusion
- The Auction Computer Clerk
After the Auction
- I won an item. Now what?
Can I pay by credit card?
- When will I receive my poster(s)?
- Shipping, Handling and Insurance?
- Do you ship overseas?
Are there any taxes that I have to pay?
- Introduction
- In May of 2000, we began broadcasting our live poster auctions in San Francisco
via the Internet. Poster enthusiasts all over the world have the opportunity to
participate live in our sales via computer. Contrary to absentee bidding, you can
place your bids in real time via the Internet when the live event is taking place. You
don't have to be at the floor of the auction house to bid live - you can participate right
from your computer!
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- In order to help you understand the exact process of live bidding, we encourage
you to read through the information provided below. Live Auctions have some obvious and
some not so obvious differences from regular Ebay sales. Our 2-year experience with live
auctions has been excellent. Our clients have embraced the option of participating live
from their home computers. But there are some subtle differences between absentee and live
bidding on Ebay and between live bidding and bidding by telephone, fax or in person. Ebay
does not discuss some of these subtleties and we want to make sure that all participants
understand the exact bidding process.
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- For more general information about how live auctions work, please refer to the
introductory guide at EbayLiveAuctions.
Here you will learn about the safety of live auctions, how they work, what you need to do
to participate, etc.
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- Do I need a fast Computer?
- No, not really. Click here
to see if your PC or Mac meets the minimum system configuration requirements for live
bidding. These requirements apply only for live bidding you can browse the catalog,
search for lots, and place absentee bids with almost any system configuration.
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- I have questions about a specific item in the catalog
- If you have questions about any of the posters or poster lots offered in our
sale, please contact us by email, phone
(925.673.3343) or fax (925.673.3355) and we will try to help. If possible, we will be
happy to provide additional details about the condition of a specific poster, send you
additional images by email or simply answer your general questions about the auction. But
please do not wait until the last minute! The closer we get to the auction date, the
busier we are. We will try to respond to all inquiries but encourage you to contact us at
least 2-3 days before the auction.
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- Registration
- To bid online in our poster auction, you need to complete two registration steps:
- 1. Register with Ebay, if you haven't already. Only registered Ebay users
can participate in Live Auctions.
- 2. Sign up for our auction. Each time you want to participate in a Live Auction,
you have to review and agree to the terms and conditions governing that specific sale.
Once you agree with them, you are ready to participate in that event.
- Make sure to review our Terms and
Conditions of Sale.
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- How do I bid? Logging and bidding live
- On the day of the auction, a computer participant can open the live auction
window through EbayLiveAuctions and choose to either just "view" the sale or
"view and bid." (Some people choose "view" to make sure they don't
accidentally press the "bid" button). When you "enter" the auction, a
pop-up window (through Java) will open and allow you to participate in the sale. You see
the current lot number, a description of the item and a large image. Since images are
loaded in the background, a computer bidder can easily follow the sale even with a 56 k
modem connection to the Internet. The computer screen will reveal to you at what stage the
bidding is and what bid amount is required. All you have to do is click the
"Bid" button. On the computer screen, both Ebay absentee and Ebay live bidders
are shown as "live" bidders. All other absentee and floor bidders are shown as
"floor" bidders.
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- A tip: if you have never participated in an Ebay Live Auction sale, you may want
to visit any ongoing live auction and just
view that sale (no prior registration necessary) to see what this looks like.
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- Absentee and Live Bidding - Some Comments
- There are three ways to bid in our auctions: by fax/mail order bid, by telephone
(limited) or live.
Absentee Bids: who wins?
Absentee/Order Bids may be sent to us directly or be submitted via LiveAuctioneers.com or ebay.com. All bids submitted to
us directly or via LiveAuctioneers.com
are entered into our auction database and will then be executed by the auctioneer on the
day of the auction on behalf of the absentee bidder at the lowest possible price. Absentee
bids ALWAYS have precedence over live bids. In case of multiple, identical absentee bids,
the winner is the person whose bid first reached our office.
Absentee bids placed with ebay.com are unknown to us until the day of the
auction. If someone places an absentee bid with Ebay, we have no access to the bidder or
the amount of the bid. This information is kept secret, as is the case with all regular
Ebay auctions. As a result, absentee bids placed directly with us have precedence over
absentee bids placed on Ebay.
Example: Multiple, Identical Absentee Bids
A poster has a reserve of $500. We receive only one absentee bid by mail on this item for
$500. An Ebay user also leaves a bid for $500 on Ebay for the same item. When the lot is
called, the auctioneer open this particular poster at $550 on behalf of the absentee mail
bidder. If nobody else bids $550 (the next increment), the absentee bid for $500 is the
FIRST and WINNING bid. At that point, we have NO WAY of knowing whether the Ebay bid for
$500 was an absentee bid or a live bid and when it was placed! All the computer clerk at
the auction sees is that someone online (live OR absentee) is willing to bid $500. Since
the auctioneer already opened the lot with $500 on behalf of the absentee mail bidder, the
computer clerk enters the $500 bid as a floor/absentee bid and asks for $550 from the
internet. But nobody else wants to bid $550. Thus the poster is sold to the absentee mail
bidder for $500.
Why is this important?
It is important, because a person who left an absentee bid with Ebay may feel that he/she
should have won the item! The problem is that we have no way of knowing about the Ebay
bids until the auction begins. In fact, we do not learn about a bid on a specific item
until we open said lot.
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- Potential Areas of Confusion
- Absentee bidding is of course, irrelevant to those who
participate live in the auction. As a live bidder, you have the advantage of controlling
your bid and deciding to increase your bid by that one increment that may decide the
winner. Live online bidders have the same advantage as telephone and floor bidders, but
Ebay's auctions may sometimes be perceived to work in strange ways. Here is how the Ebay
apparatus works:
Example: Multiple Absentee Bids
Again, a poster has a reserve of $500. Bidding increments are $50 at this point. An Ebay
user, let's call him FRANK, is the first to leave an absentee bid on Ebay for $1000. Now a
second Ebay absentee bidder, let's call him SAM leaves a bid for $600. Common sense might
suggest that these two bids would be weighed against one another and that the starting
price for the lot would be $650 - one increment higher than the second highest bid. But
since FRANK was the first to leave his absentee bid, he would win the item for $600! His
bid came first! Ebay absentee bidders will be beaten by the exact amount of their own bids
in the event that an earlier, higher Ebay absentee has already been placed.
Example: Ebay Live Bidders vs. Absentee Bidders
The live bidding process works exactly the same way. To continue the previous example,
let's say a floor bidder SALLY now bids $650. The auctioneer accepts her bid. The computer
clerk enters $650 as the leading floor bid. The Ebay computer system immediately responds
with a bid of $700 (FRANK's absentee bid). Again, the computer clerk does not know whether
this was an absentee bid or a live bid, but it was submitted and the clerk accepts it.
FRANK is the high bidder again at $700. Finally, TOM enters a live bid through Ebay and
enters $750. The auction clerk sees another bid on his computer: $750. The clerk accepts
the bid and the new high bid is $750. But strangely, FRANK continues to be the high
bidder! Why? Because, as is the case with the Ebay absentee bids, FRANK'S absentee bid
gets priority status over TOM's newly entered live bid. So no matter what happens online,
FRANK will win the bid against any and all EBAY live bids up until $1000. In fact, every
time TOM submits a new bid, his bidding amount just ends up being the new high bid on Ebay
showing FRANK in the lead! (until $1000 is reached).
Where is the problem?
A bidder like Tom may be confused (and probably very upset) when he sees that every time
he leaves a higher live online bid, he is outbid by someone else at exactly his bid
amount! It looks like the auction clerk is constantly accepting someone else's bids and
ignoring poor Tom altogether! The truth is that the auction clerk cannot tell who is
actually submitting a bid online. The auction clerk is merely informed that there is a
bid. He has no way of seeing whether this is a live or an absentee bid or who is
submitting the bid.
Gaps in the Auction Protocol
But the biggest problem is that Ebay's auction protocol does not even show that TOM ever
participated in the sale. His bid is automatically rejected by the Ebay computer system!
The auction protocol will only list FRANK as the bidder at the various stages of the
bidding process and as the final winner of said item.
We (and several other auction houses) have complained to Ebay about this issue
and have asked that all participants be incorporated in the protocol for a sold item. Ebay
has not made any changes.
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- The Auction Computer Clerk
- There is only one computer clerk on the auction floor communicating with the
internet bidders (via a computer). The screen he is looking at merely shows "Internet
Bid for $ xxx." The computer clerk has to accept or reject (in case the floor bidding
is already further along) that bid. The clerk does not know whether the bid is an absentee
or a live bid. He also does not know WHO is actually bidding on a specific item. This
information only becomes available once the bid is accepted! Finally, the computer clerk
is merely receiving ONE bid on this screen! There are never multiple online bids that he
can choose from.
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- I won an item. Now what?
- All winners will automatically notified both by Ebay and us. We require that you
email us your contact information (name, address and telephone number). In response, we
prepare and email your bill. We will calculate your total and will give you several
choices with respect to insurance, packing/packaging and shipping (see below). Payment is
expected within 2 weeks of the close of the auction.
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- Payment Options
- We do not accept credit cards for auction purchases. But: you may use a service
like BidPay.com to purchase a money
order using your credit card. Bid Pay charges a percentage fee for this service.
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- We do accept regular US checks, cashier's checks and US money orders.
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- Overseas buyers may purchase a US dollar check from their home bank and mail it
to us. This is the least expensive payment option. You may, of course, use an online
service, like BidPay.com. If you wire
the money directly to our bank account, we charge a flat $30 wire fee for all foreign
wires and $10 for all domestic wires. This flat fee is the minimum service charge that we
pay our bank for incoming wires.
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- When do I receive my poster?
- Your poster(s) will be shipped to you after we have received your payment. All
California residents will need to pay 8.25% sales tax to the purchase price and the
buyer's premium (unless you have a valid CA Resale License).
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- If you are a new client and decide to pay with a personal check, we will wait for
your check to clear. If you pay by money order or cashier's check, your purchase can be
shipped immediately.
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- We prefer to ship posters on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday so that FedEx or other
carriers may not have to store and hold the poster longer than absolutely necessary. If
you need us to expedite your shipment, please contact us.
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- Shipping, Handling and Insurance
- Shipping charges depend on the size and weight of the poster and the tube as well
as your physical location.
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- Shipping within the USA
We generally ship via Federal Express but are happy to use the US Post Office, if
you prefer. FedEx shipments are traceable and the delivery is guaranteed. When we ship via
the US Postal Service, we usually use thick tubes for better protection and add a
tracking/signed delivery service. In the end, especially if you add insurance, the charge
is often more than the FedEx charge.
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- But upon request - and you will be given this option - we ship uninsured, without
tracking and in thin tubes that are free of charge.
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- If you have your own FedEx or UPS account, we will be happy to use your account
number.
- Overseas Shipping
We try to minimize the cost of shipping for all clients. Overseas shipping can
be expensive. When we invoice you, we generally give you a choice between Federal Express
and US Post Office shipping. But the US Post Office has certain restrictions on
size/length of tubes to foreign countries.
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- Example:
- A 2-3 pound package to Belgium or Germany with one poster (40 x 24 in.) would
cost approx. $18 (6-10 days) or $32 (2-3 days) + insurance + the cost of a thick
tube, if wanted (approx. $4-8).
Insurance
Insurance is optional.
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- Domestic / US only insurance with FedEx
shipping:
The first $100 insurance coverage is free.
- Coverage up to $500: $2.50.
- Up to $999: $4
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- International Insurance with FedEx
shipping: $500 coverage maximum
Coverage up to $500: $2.50.
International insurance coverage above $500 coverage is available through UPS and the US Post Office only.
Restrictions apply. We will obviously assist you in this process, should you require
insurance coverage.
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- Insurance with the US Post Office is a little more expensive. Please visit the US Post Office online for exact prices. We
will quote you the price for insurance when we email you your invoice after the auction.
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- Tubes
- We usually sent posters in thick, protective tubes. These costs between $4 and
$8, depending on the size. We will give you the option of having your purchase sent in
free, triangular FedEx tubes instead. We strongly recommend that all foreign buyers add
the cost of a tube.
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- Taxes
All California residents will need to pay 8.25% sales tax to the purchase price and
the buyer's premium (unless you have a valid CA Resale License).
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- There are no taxes for foreign buyers. When we ship overseas, we must declare all
posters for customs for their full purchase price. We understand that the VAT is be very
high in some European countries. Based on our experience, our overseas clients generally
have no problems with Customs when a package is sent via the US Post Office. FedEx and UPS
seem to have stricter regulations and agreements with the customs offices abroad.
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